Becoming Bridge Builders

Parenting Adult Children, Cultivating Company Culture, and Fostering Generational Wealth with Mark B Murphy

April 11, 2024 Keith Haney Season 5 Episode 270
Becoming Bridge Builders
Parenting Adult Children, Cultivating Company Culture, and Fostering Generational Wealth with Mark B Murphy
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Discover the intricate dance of parenting adult children with Mark B Murphy, CEO of North East Private Client Group, as we uncover the delicate balance between guidance and independence. Delve into the transformative power of literature and the impact that both books and our social circles have on shaping the path ahead. Explore, alongside Mark, the lifelong journey of parenting and how the lessons learned from the books we read can lead to success in all facets of life.

As we navigate the waters of company culture and leadership, we unravel the art of aligning your team with core values that resonate deeply within your organization. Learn how to truly understand and motivate your team members to create a class three experience—prioritizing the interests of customers, employees, and the firm to curate a harmonious and prosperous work environment. Gain insights into the tough decisions that leaders face to preserve cultural integrity and listen to our reflections on the current financial landscape, informed by Mark's extensive experience in financial planning and wealth management.

Wrapping up with an empowering discussion, we illuminate the importance of entrepreneurial thinking in crafting a legacy and fostering generational wealth. Mark B Murphy, the mind behind "The Ultimate Investment," shares his thoughts on creating an abundance mindset, the potential for entrepreneurial leadership to bridge societal divides, and the significance of integrity, character, and faith. Join us for this inspiring conversation that goes beyond the financial and taps into the profound impact we can have on the world, one act of kindness, and one wise investment at a time.

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Speaker 1:

My guest today is Mark B Murphy. Ceo of North East Private Client Group, is an accomplished author, speaker and motivator who is revolutionized in the financial planning and wealth management industry. He helps entrepreneurs achieve multi-generational wealth through personalized strategies, leveraging a strategic planning and financial engineering expertise. He helps his ranked team as the number one financial security professional in New Jersey and 15th nationwide. Additionally, his book the Ultimate Investment is the number one bestseller and now a new release on Amazon. We welcome Mark to the podcast. Well, it's so good to welcome Mark back to the podcast. How are you doing, mark?

Speaker 2:

Very well, I'm honored to be a two-time. You know, like Saturday Night Live, you're a five-time host as a big deal. I guess a two-time guest on your podcast is just as important.

Speaker 1:

It is. It's really important. I don't have a guest on often, so you know it's good to have you back, Thank you. Thank you, I had to change the question because you came on before, so I had to add a new opening question for this. This is a brand new opening question just for you. All right, I'm ready, all right. So what's been happening in your life recently that you expected, didn't expect or didn't expect?

Speaker 2:

You know, everything to me is BS, it's all BS, it's all belief systems. You know, everything is to me a belief systems. So I think that the thing is that you train your mind on the expected to say you know, in this life you don't get what you want, or you don't get what you need, or you don't get what you deserve, you get what you expect. And so I think for the most part, that I sort of train my mind to expect good things to happen, to expect what I want to happen to happen, and sometimes it doesn't, but that's the unexpected. But I think, if you're being more granular about it, I think that you know I've got five kids between 17 and 25. And I thought that once you kind of raise the kids and get them out of the house, our youngest goes to college next year. Well, four kids in college, one's already graduated.

Speaker 2:

The unexpected to me was that I thought, I thought that the not the problems would go away, but I thought that the parenting would ease up from the day to day. And I realized that it's. I've never been more in the middle of everything and, by the way, most of it with great joy, others with some. You know, you know the things you got to do to be a good parent and the discipline and and the problems you have to help kids with from time to time. But I thought I thought that was unexpected. I thought, you know, I thought that my not that I would never stop being a parent, but I thought a lot of the day to day responsibilities would ease up and I think they've just gotten, you know, harder You're dealing with, you know, you know, and I think the challenge is the challenge.

Speaker 2:

I think, when you see this unexpected stuff is as somebody that is very empathetic and solves problems every day and that's what I do for a living as a, you know, as a key business strategist and critical thinker and financial advisor to, to, to to folks is you want to go in there and solve your kids problems and any of the, and oftentimes you have the resources to do that.

Speaker 2:

But I think it's very, very hard and sometimes I don't do it as well as I could, but sometimes you've got to step back and let them solve their own problems and figure it out for themselves and that's how they get strong and you know almost like they. They talk about like a, like a bird. You know that the way their wings get strong so they can fly is to break out of the shell. If, if they, you know, if, if they, if, if the shells opened other than by their own wings, they wind up not being able to fly and they get eaten by prey. Because they can't fly, they're running around on the ground and I try to remember that, but sometimes I forget, and so I'm, I'm trying to, I'm trying to be a better, a better parent by sometimes doing less for my kids, not more.

Speaker 1:

That makes sense. My kids are getting older too, and you're right, parenting never goes away, it changes. I think the the neat thing about parenting is, you're right, you, you have to learn. When they were younger, you wanted to kind of teach them and do things for them. Now you're kind of getting in the middle of, sometimes, relationship issues, financial planning, futures, decisions they're going to make in their first home, their first kid, their collage, I mean all those things that you didn't think you were going to have to decide anymore. Now you're kind of coming alongside and you say you're, you're being a coach now, which is more than a parent. It's kind of fun in some ways If you, if you like that idea of coaching them to help them to figure, like you said yourself, figure out the answers already inside of them. Right, right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I think, I think, I think part of becoming an adult is being able to stand on your own two feet and stand up for yourself. And, by the way, if I don't do a good job with my kids, what shot do my grandkids have?

Speaker 1:

Right, exactly, I'm always curious people like yourself what books have you read in your life that have changed your life? The most?

Speaker 2:

Well, first of all, I think that's an awesome question because, clearly, if you wanna see what your life looks like in 10 years, it's two things it's the books you read and the people you hang out with. But so I could, and so I consider myself a voracious reader, although my friends bust me because I had my third book out last year, and so they always say to me well, you've written three books now, that's two more than you've read, which is not true. So of course I need to then say to them well, now that I'm a best-selling author, I've gotta get a better set of friends than you. So this will be our last conversation. But having said that, I think that reading is what separates entrepreneurs from just people that own a business, or entrepreneurs from people who just have a job, and so I can tell you so many books that made a difference in my life. Some books just changed how I thought about things, because the problem is never the problem, it's how you think about the problem.

Speaker 2:

But if I'm looking for specific books, like Outliers from Malcolm Gladwell was an important book for me, and it was an important book for me because it made me realize that to master a subject you had to put 10,000 hours in and all of the things and the confidence that you needed that. You had confidence once you had that, or as somebody that has hired and, unfortunately, have had to fire people over the last 38 or 39 years. The book Traction by Gina Wickman was profound, and he has a system called EOS, the Entrepreneurial Operating System, which allowed me to get very clear on who needed to be an organization. It made me very clear that you're not growing a business, you're growing people, and so then how do I make sure that I've got the right people in my organization, which I think was terrific?

Speaker 2:

I think a book that came out relatively recently that described our business to a tee. I just wasn't eloquent enough to write it myself. Meaning they laid out was Dan Sullivan had a book with a co-author on a book called who, not how, and because the question that has been asked to me probably 10,000 times in some form, keith, has been how do I grow my income, how do I grow my business? How do I grow my freedom of time? How do I grow my freedom of relationships? How do I grow my freedom of purpose, one of the five freedoms, and I always thought that was the wrong question, that the right question should be who do we need to collaborate with to grow our income, our business, our freedom of time, relationship and purpose? And it allowed me to realize that that was the key to a successful entrepreneurship.

Speaker 1:

I could go on.

Speaker 2:

I have a hundred favorite books.

Speaker 1:

So you've read more than two.

Speaker 2:

I continue to read, I continue to read. I think that you always have an opportunity to learn, and I think the other thing too is that sometimes it's like what are some of the I read? That great book was out 10 years ago on Genghis Khan, but the idea is there was so much learning involved in terms of just how he operated and he and the Mongrels created both terror and fear and a culture. Not that I want to become Genghis Khan, but I think you could learn from how they in many ways created modern society and so, as opposed, I thought it was more. It was a biography sort of, where I was a biography, but the learning of how I could use the practicality in our business and in my life made a difference.

Speaker 1:

I love that. This is a new question too. I love this. I want to talk to something like yourself. How would you describe your leadership style? And, on top of that also, how does that style impact the ones, those around you and your business?

Speaker 2:

When I was younger, my leadership style was called impatient, and it wasn't a very effective style. I think it was when I realized that the key factor in improvement was a couple of things. Number one is when the clients were always numero uno clients could do no wrong in my mind and when I realized that the people that worked with and for me were not only as important but in many cases, more important than the clients Not that the clients were still not numero uno, but when I realized that that was a game changer in terms of my leadership style. The second thing is when I realized that I'm always at my best when I'm serving others, and so the idea is that when I could use servant leadership and lift people up and not be the leader because my name was on your check or because I was the CEO, but my leadership came from that, I was pouring into people and investing in them, both personally and professionally, and I was there to help them be the best version of themselves, and I was. I was help them to, to meet their goals and aspirations Then I became the kind of leader that I would want to work for and that ultimately that maybe early in my career, because I had no roadmap or no guide to do this.

Speaker 2:

You know, I was just kind of fumbling around, but once that was a that was like a eureka light bulb kind of key moment is that you know, who would I want to work for and I wanted to become that kind of person that I wanted to work for. That people would, would, would, lead, would, lead with. The other thing with leadership is you've got to be the dirtiest key in the office. You know meaning that ultimately, you can't ask anybody to do something that you wouldn't do yourself or have not done yourself. Now, maybe some of the tasks in my office I'm not doing anymore but, technology improvements aside, I did it and so I wouldn't ask you to do it, keith, if I wouldn't do it myself. This is great.

Speaker 1:

North house kind of makes a point that for leadership you probably don't just have one style. You have to kind of adjust and adapt to situation. So how do you, how does your leadership style, adapt to the situations you need at the moment?

Speaker 2:

Well, I think it's I mean part of part of its circumstances, but I think part of it is that you know your super, my superpower, might be to be able to read people and read what language and what Eugene says, like I seem to. You know maybe it's just also having done this for so long and worked in a business that's people you can. You can read a few things, you can read what they're saying between the lines and you can get the feeling on that and you know, like, as an example, like like you know, I remember, you know a few years, a few years ago, people were telling us that this key employee was leaving and I kept saying, no, they're not leaving and they go. No, no, they're leaving, they go, they're not leaving, they go and they never. They didn't leave and I go. Well, how did you know this? And I said I knew that because they stopped this, they were still disagreeing with me. You know meaning. If you and I had checked out of our relationship, we were like we're done, but if you, they still care, they still wanted to be there and I still want. You know what? Or, or you know what, even when people say the opposite, you know they are leaving because of how they behave.

Speaker 2:

And I think part of it is part of the guilt as a leader is to find out how to get almost like a coach in sports, to figure out how to get the best out of your people. You know, some people, some some people really respond well to tough love. Other people get paralyzed by it. You know, and I think part of it is really trying to understand how do you get the best out of people. And you know, I think I think part of it is not because you have some secret, you know playbook on that. I think it's really getting to know people in relationships and getting to understand how they react to things.

Speaker 2:

And I think and I think it starts by, you know, showing people what a great job looks like. You know getting clear on expectations, communicating with people and then and then trying to find the method to get the very, very best out of it. And not the very best out of them because it serves you or it serves the business, but because they know that you have their interest at heart, that you know to me that everything must be what we call a class three experience. It's got to be great for our customer. First, it's got to be great for them. Second, and it's got to be great for me and the firm. Third, and and you know, there's no situation that I want to be involved in where for you to win I have to lose, or for me to win you have to lose. I want to create a situation where everybody can do better by working together.

Speaker 1:

That's great. Well, you can't describing a little bit is your company culture. How would you define what a good company culture looks like?

Speaker 2:

You know, I, you know, I think I think part of it is where everybody has the same core values. You know meaning, meaning there were times in my life where I had very smart people who worked for me but didn't believe in the culture. You know that, you know what, and so I was wondering why it was a misfit and it did. It did not work. And I think you know so, like, you know one of the things like people say like how do you get people to be so engaged and work so hard? And I would say, well, if they weren't working hard or engaged, they wouldn't be working here.

Speaker 2:

You know me, or you know, or you know that that you know what, you know we. You know we have a culture. Or you know, for me, I'm always at my best I mentioned this when I'm serving others. I want people in our culture to be there. That's the kind of culture that we said I want. We want to create an experience for our clients. We want to, we want to be emotionally fit. You're dealing with people's lives, their money, their most sensitive and deepest, darkest secrets. You know part of that is you have to be emotionally fit when that that occurs. You know, you know, you want to, you want to create that, and every time we have not been true to that, either in hiring or or or in in Coaching our folks. If they, if they seem to get out of, out of a balance with our core values, that's when our company take a step backward. Backward, I mean. The definition to me of an unstoppable team is when you have your entire team in in momentum, and and, and, and, and the and. The thing that's the hardest part is Is that there are very good people who are very talented or who you have great affection for personally, or who do some things so extraordinarily well, but there are some things that are deal breakers in that place because you know, as good as they may be, in so many areas, they become a cancer to the organization, which allows other people to say, well, if that person can get away with that or do that, well then why can't I? And that's the beginning of the, of the, of the breaking of your culture, and so I think you have to.

Speaker 2:

You have to kind of coach to people and to say, say to them you know, you know, here's who we are and here's the kind of organization we're running. If this is not the right place for you. Let me help you find a place that might be better for you, that might tolerate you and not showing up on time on a consistent basis. Or or you know, or you know being great at what you do but not being a team player because you know that may be great. Another firm, that might be fine. You can work in your little cubicle and silo and be a superstar. But here we're a collaborative firm. So if that's not your, if that's what you do, you're probably not going to be successful here. Or if you don't wake up every day being totally jazzed by creating an experience for a client, well then that's probably not going to be. You know where you're going to be successful. I like that.

Speaker 1:

Your specialty is financial planning and wealth management as you think about that spear of your focus, what's been on your mind recently as you look at the financial landscape of our, of our nation and and as financial landscape in general?

Speaker 2:

I think that when, when, when I was a kid because I'm, I think I'm older than you when I was a kid, I used to think I, you know, I grew up dumb and broke in some ways. I grew up dumb and broke in Suffolk, new York, you know, and I used to look up to people that were successful and were hard-working. Go, you know what. God, that's who I want to be, you know, or I want to be that person that makes a difference, you know, in this world and I, and I'm willing to do whatever it takes to go do that. And I think the thing that I'm seeing is that there are people that we now have a culture where people who did it with just hard work and and you know what, like remember I, you know when, when you, when people say I success for you, I go yeah, well, any schmuck can make money.

Speaker 2:

Who works three jobs, because that's what I did to get here, you know, and I don't do that anymore. I mean, you know, I'm not putting in routinely 75 hour weeks like I was before. I'm still working my you know what off, but I'm, but I'm, you know, I'm not, I'm not working, you know, for you know I don't go home, take a shower and go back to work, like I did in my 20s, you know, or that piece, and I think some in some ways, this country, we now, we now think that somehow that hard work, that somebody gave you something or somebody, you know that that hard work like so you must have done something wrong to be successful. And and or there should be some shame in being successful. And and again, a poor person never gave me a job, you know I am, and it bothers me that people that have just enough Well, you know I'm, I've enough for my family go.

Speaker 2:

Well, that makes you, keith, if that's who you are and I know that's not who you are, but if that's the person you are, that makes you the selfish, most selfish person in the world to me, because you have just enough for yourself and no abundance for anybody else. What I want to do is I want to help people create abundance so we can help change the lives of Everybody on the planet for the better. And and playing the scarcity game so that everybody has less to feel better. It is. Is is different and, by the way, I'm not for making people feel bad, but I'm for a rewarding the very least I'm not. I'm not a guy where everybody gets a trophy.

Speaker 1:

I Like that trophy though.

Speaker 2:

We've been ever. We're gonna issue a participation trophy, but we're gonna also issue a trophy for the people that are doing the right thing, and I think that there's a lot of this work, life balance and other things that are just an excuse for not for, not for, not for not achieving. And then sometimes you'll hear people say, well, yeah, well, we, we have to be about the greater good, and I gotta tell you, I wake up every day thinking about the greater good. But the only way I can affect the greater good is by creating abundance in the world for everybody else. I can't create scarcity and that's going to create abundance. And and I think that we've, we've, we've Misaligned our, our kids, because you sit back to them, at your kids, and then go. When you ask a parent, keith, and you say what do they want for their kids, the default answer is what do you think? The default answer I want my kids to be better than I was.

Speaker 2:

I Would. That would be an acceptable answer.

Speaker 1:

The answer yeah, you know that's true. I think I think my parents want a better life for us. I think you're right. I think, then, the shift is Dennis want them to be happy. Which Was that mean?

Speaker 2:

Well, first of all, I think, first of all, I want my kids to be happy too, but I can't, you can't, make somebody happy. That's gonna come from within, not from outs, from internally, not externally. I want my kids to be hard-working, thoughtful, respectful, you know it's faith, family service, that's what. That's what our core principles, found in principle in our family, are, and I don't see how you know that making them happy is, yeah, I'd want them to be happy, but I don't want anybody be unhappy. But I think, why would? How is a parent, or how is a boss, or how is a friend, or how is a brother or or or or a friend or a colleague? How can I, how can I affect your happiness? I I can't make you happy, but I can, I can give you the tool, the tools to be happy. And I think you know goes back to our early conversation. I think the joy in life is, is the. The joy in life is the journey, it's not the arrival.

Speaker 1:

So I love what you just said and I think there has been a shift in our country. And I don't know how do we begin to get people to get? Because I just had a guy on my show who's an engineer and we had a great conversation about the fact that he can't find engineers anymore for his company Because the ones coming out are just too dumb to be in his company. Because somebody told me should be an engineer, but they don't have the skills or the passion to be an engineer. Well, the smarts to be an engineer. How do we get to the point where we have dummy down Education, to where it is just about happiness or about participation trophies, and how do we get back to that faith, family and focus that you just talked about?

Speaker 2:

You know, I think it's going to be led by entrepreneurs like us. Entrepreneurs are always on the cutting edge, and that's why I'm so passionate To help entrepreneurial people create multi-generational wealth so that they can help change the focus of this, of this country. You know, the other thing I think also is in terms of the division is that you know that some there's got to be somebody that can unite this country, or there's got to be some group of people that can unite this country, because I think there there's. I think that we are politicians and social media and and the media itself wants to pit one person against the other for ratings or for votes or for something. And I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think About somebody who truly not for fully Political expediency did the right thing. You know, or I. You know I'd be. You know I'd be knocked over if Somebody on MSNBC gave Donald Trump credit for something. And I'd be knocked over if somebody on Fox gave Joe Biden credit for something. You know that he did good. You know that either of them did good.

Speaker 2:

I'd be, I'd be, I'd be, I'd be. I probably have a guy and have a heart attack right on the spot if that occurred. You know, if you know, and I'm, and I'm thinking In what? In what world do what? In what world are we so polarized that we only report the news or spin the news that fits our narrative? I don't think that's helpful for anybody. You know where's, where's the place where people, where people get, actually give you information so you can make your own decision. I think we've stopped thinking as a country. I think I think we've been fed with what, we with what and, by the way, the craziest thing to me, when given facts on the other side, we dispute the facts. You know the very fact that that half the country, or the entire country, only wants to accept what the say the Supreme Court or a federal court or or or municipal court decide, if they agree with the decision.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

You know I I think that that's that's where we've got to get back to. You know respect for for institutions. You respect for people. You know you could disagree with somebody with what they think, but at the end of the day I think we need to all be friends, right?

Speaker 2:

and I think you're you're, you know, and I think the fact that people saying you know, I could never, you know, I could you know, I would you know that they, they actively, they actively Exclude people who are different, that's to me just another form of discrimination.

Speaker 1:

Right, you're exactly right. I Don't want to go, but go before I get to answer you. Have you talked to you skin about your number one selling book? Tell us about your book again.

Speaker 2:

Well, I think it was, it was a book that we came back and I said, well, what is you know? What's the most what you know, what could we do to bring the most abundance back to this country? And I think, ultimately, it was to put together a, put together a playbook that allows people that have an Entrepreneurial mindset that this mean they own a business or their entrepreneurs, but they've been entrepreneurial mindset to create abundance so that they would be able to impact the lives of everybody that they touched, and that the best way to do that was through entrepreneurial thinking, and, and, and, and, and that we've got a. We want to change the narrative of how people think, because I think I think in the world. I think people think that there's a lot of competition and I don't think there's a lot of competition. I don't really believe in competition, I believe in differentiation, and so how do we differentiate people from from other places? Or, you know, a lot of people are saying, hey, I just want to seat at the table and I'm saying, well, why do you want to see to the table? I want to build my own table. Why don't we teach them to build their own table and invite other people to their table, or you know, remember, it's not the problem, it's how you think about the problem.

Speaker 2:

And I think that, and I think the other thing we want to do for people is we want to. You know that so many people have, you know, what I described is already listening ears, already seeing eyes, because the brain is only looking for what the you know, what the mind is looking for. So how do we train our mind to look for other possibilities? How do we, how do we train people to be be aware and have a different Differential in thinking? And so one of the things like I pride myself on is is that I see people for where they are, or I try to see people at least, from where they are, and and you know all their, all their great qualities and all their flaws and all the other things. But I think one of the things that everybody deserves in their life is to have one, or hopefully many people who not only see them where they are but could see them at their highest potential and what they could be, that we could almost raise people to be the very best version of themselves, and we can work and work every day to do that.

Speaker 2:

You know, you know, sometimes that's what you'll hear me when I've not had a good day or done. So you know, I say you know, hey, you know, you know, hey, mark, you could do better than that. That's not the best version of you. You're better than that and that's not how you want to. You know, it doesn't matter what somebody else did, that's not who I want to be. And you know, do we? Are we perfect? No, I'm far from perfect, but I aspire to be perfect. I aspire to be better. I aspire to be a better version of myself tomorrow than I am today, and I think that that's all we can ask for. People and I think too many people are have given up or or don't have the tools necessary To be able to build, come the light in the life that they choose, that they, that they wish they could be.

Speaker 1:

I love that. I Love talking to you, mark you. You are so inspirational and just the way you think about things, the way you you view other people and the way you want to Invest in others so that they can invest in others, that we can, like you say, expand generational wealth around the world. But I want to know from you, as you think about the impact that you've already had, an Impact you're gonna have in the future what message do you want to leave with the world that long surpasses you?

Speaker 2:

You know I'm not the most reflective person in the world and I think when you think about that, you think about death, which is not something I control and I'm not looking to happen in the near future.

Speaker 2:

Although we don't get we don't get out it. Well, nobody, none of us get out of here alive. I'd like to say there's no right way to do the wrong thing. I think that the idea is that that he made a difference in the live I said it earlier before, I sort of been. My mantra is like is is he made a difference in the lives of all the people he touched and that and that, and that the multiplier effect.

Speaker 2:

There's a money multiplier effect that drives our economy and I think that, hopefully, that that I had my small role and a people multiplier in that. In that what I'm so proud of, keith, is I'm proud of not the money we've made and the abundance we've created and the car I drive or the amount of money in my bank account or all those other things. I think it's overall all amazing and far more than you know a guy who grew up in Suffolk, new York, should should have. I think that what I'm proudest of is the small little things that we've been able to do the amount of people we've hired that have been able to send their kids to college or buy the house they wanted to buy, or to be able to take a company and help them to grow that company where they created hundreds of jobs and then that multiplier created hundreds more jobs and more abundance, and more about the people multiplier, so that everybody's life became better because of the small little things that you did. That, that one little thing, that one little thing, one little kindness.

Speaker 2:

Even today, you know I you could say something to somebody that's nasty and ruin their entire day. It happens all the time to people, right? So that's the case. Well then, shouldn't it be that you have the chance that one kind thing to somebody can change their outlook for the day and how they respond to other people, so that just that one kind word that you say to somebody impacts them, so that they, instead of them being in a bad mood, they're in a great mood to impact five other people in their lives that day. Just the small little difference that we all make that I think they will want to mind.

Speaker 2:

Just you, I'm one person on a planet of 7 billion people. You're one person. What am I going to do? On one level, that's overwhelming, but on the other, on the other level, it's amazing how one person can make a difference. You know what? There's a reason why one of my favorite movies. You know I love all the mob movies. You know Godfather and good fellas and you know all those. You know movies like that. I'm a big fan of that. But if you are.

Speaker 1:

you are from Jersey, so yeah.

Speaker 2:

But? But I'm saying if you really ask what my favorite movies are, you know you asked about books is my favorite movie? My favorite movie? I love Back to the Future, where you know and Michael J Fox is, you know his family was, you know, going down the wrong direction but just one little thing changed the whole trajectory of his family's history. Or I like it's a wonderful life. You have to see that around Christmas time, where you know where Jimmy Stewart saw what his life would be like if he wasn't on the planet. That's my probably my favorite movie of all time. I love my one of my fraternity brothers who's probably 10 years older than I am.

Speaker 2:

Angelo Pizzo wrote and directed Rudy and Hoosiers. You know where the small little town can have all the glory of a large school. Or you know Rudy. I mean the ultimate underdog story. You know how a guy like Rudy could ever play. You know a down at Notre Dame is. It was almost an unbelievable story if it wasn't true. And so I think that the idea is that there's always hope and there's always hope that when you, when you still have hope, you still have the ability to succeed.

Speaker 1:

I love that. So, Mark, where can people find your book the Ultimate Investment and connect with you on social media?

Speaker 2:

They can find it on Amazon. They can reach me by email at mark underscore Murphy at northeastprivatecom and, as I said, I'm happy to continue the conversation with you anytime or any one of your listeners. And you know, as I said, I just want to be continued to be known as the guy that helps helps people create multi-generational wealth. Well, Mark, thank you.

Speaker 1:

Help them. Keep it Well, mark. Thanks so much. I really enjoyed talking to you and, again, you always provides my audience with such inspirational content and advice, so thank you for what you do and blessings on helping people to look for that next generation and create generational wealth in their lives and their lives of their families.

Speaker 2:

Well, right back at you, I, you know, I, I. It feels good to be in the company of a man of such high integrity and character, and a man of faith like yourself and I, you know. So I consider my, my blessing and my honor to spend this time with you. Well, thank you, Mark, have a great day. Thank you, my friend. Thank you, my friend.

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