Becoming Bridge Builders

Crafting a Life of Purpose with Insights from Colin Kingsmill

February 29, 2024 Keith Haney Season 5 Episode 259
Becoming Bridge Builders
Crafting a Life of Purpose with Insights from Colin Kingsmill
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From Swiss banking precision to the insightful wisdom of human-centric coaching, Colin Kingsmill joins us to unravel the tapestry of a life well-lived. His narrative captures a transformative quest from the meticulous corridors of finance to the soul-enriching fields of real estate development and life coaching. In this episode, Colin opens up about the profound impact that meditation and mindfulness have had on his journey, crediting visionaries like Gabor Maté and Martha Beck for guiding him towards an authentic existence. He underscores the pivotal moments that carved his path to fulfillment and how, through mentorship and deep self-reflection, we all can steer towards our true purpose.

Our dialogue with Colin ventures beyond the surface as we probe into the nuanced world of holistic coaching, an approach that respects the complex tapestry of personal and professional life. We confront the shortcomings of compartmentalized coaching techniques and advocate for a more integrated perspective that considers the totality of one's experiences. We dissect the stories we tell ourselves, sifting out those that hinder from those that empower, and Colin shares strategies to remain grounded amidst the relentless surge of current events. It's a conversation that promises to reframe your own origin story, challenging you to reshape your beliefs and embrace the boundless opportunities of a life unchained from self-imposed narratives.

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Speaker 1:

My guest today is Colin Kingsmill. Colin was born in Canada and raised between the Gulf Islands of British Columbia and the Swiss Alps. He lived, worked, fell and got back up again globally, from Bora Bora and Beverly Hills to Montenegro, serbia, london, tuscany and the Indian Ocean, thailand and everywhere in between. The first parts of his career was in Swiss banking. He did it for 10 years investment firm until he broke in 2021. After having ticked all the boxes of success An MBA in finance and marketing, marriage, entrepreneurship, christmas in St Morantz and Easter in Saint Tropez the kind of stuff you get the picture. In 2021, he gave everything he owned away and moved back to Vancouver to start fresh. These days, he's focusing on a few things being the board advisor of Alma de Samaya, a human-centric real estate development in the Dominican Republic. Co-founder of human whole human coaching there they are on a mission to bring humanity back to the workplace.

Speaker 1:

Owner of Colin Kingsmill Coaching for Private Coaching If you're a CEO, founder or an entrepreneur. Owner of Insight Incorporation, focused on purpose-driven real estate and design projects. Welcome, colin, to the podcast. Well, it's so good to have, colin. How are you doing, dave Colin?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm doing really well. Thank you, Keith. How are you?

Speaker 1:

doing? I am waiting for the snowstorm that's about to hit, so I am a little hesitant about how happy I'm going to be in about 14 hours.

Speaker 2:

You're all ready for it? I hope I'm sure we will be.

Speaker 1:

I'd love to ask my guest this question to kind of get a chance to get to know you a little bit better. And the audience introduced yourself what's the best piece of advice you ever received?

Speaker 2:

Good question. I'm pretty sure it would be to learn how to meditate and to be more mindful. Now, have I listened to that advice ever since I was, though that's a different question, though, right that's a different question. Yeah, that is the best place to start.

Speaker 1:

So I look at your bio. You've had a really interesting career. You've spanned a lot of different genres, a lot of different things you've done. I'm just curious, along the way, who are some people who serve as an inspiration in your life?

Speaker 2:

Oh my gosh, there's so many. Probably going to have to go from the latest to the oldest. Okay, certainly somebody like Gabor Mate, who just wrote that book called the Myth of Normal. I think he is an inspiration to me and he has been for about 20 years, ever since he created or wrote that book called when the Body Says no. So I think he's brilliant and I'm glad that I intersected with him and get to read his work.

Speaker 2:

Another one, more recent, would be a coach called Martha Beck, and Martha Beck recently wrote a book called the Wave Integrity, and it's all about living an authentic life, but living your sort of true, authentic life. So I thought I found that very inspirational at kind of a key, pivot moment in my life. And then the classics for me are people like Eckhart Tolle, with the power of now and all the work that he's done and is doing. People like Joe Dispenso, who are sort of bridging ancient wisdom and modern science. And, gosh, there's so many. I could spend the hour speaking to you about people that I find inspiring and people like you who are out there working to make the world a better place. So I think we all have our part in that play.

Speaker 1:

I appreciate it. It's interesting because you think about the people and when they intersect in your life and how those intersections can change your direction, refine your direction, hone your purpose in life. I remember a couple years back ten years back or so ran across a workshop about finding your purpose and I was doing okay in ministry. But it became really clear as I sat down and looked at what my purpose was supposed to be that my life was going to take a dramatic turn from where I had been going and I still to this day remember defining that purpose as kind of clarified what the next phase of my life was supposed to be. So yeah, those people in those moments stand out because they do have such impact on us.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, I mean I think you can. There are people that are helping us change the world and they can help you pivot right, and so often we get stuck in our ways and our beliefs and our stories and things like that. So anybody that can help us pivot out of that should be celebrated because they are life changing right. I mean, there's other people, like I said. I could go down the list of people that have had a massive impact on me personally over the years.

Speaker 1:

What's also needed about that is that the fact you're a coach because at different points in my life I've always hired a coach. Sometimes it was just because I wanted clarity. Sometimes it was kind of like there's something some place that you talk about. I'm just like you were stuck and you wanted to get beyond that stuckness. But I found that coaches are invaluable to if they do it well. I've had a couple coaches who I end up coaching them when they're supposed to be coaching me, but when they do it well, it's drawing out of you what the next phase of life is.

Speaker 2:

Right, right, I mean I think those are the best conversations, right between coaches or not. Those are the best conversations that you can have with coaches when it's not a kind of one way broadcast right or it's not letting you sort of straggle and be left alone for a long time. It's really when they can have an impactful conversation. I think I love that the idea of conversation because coaches shouldn't be seen as I don't know I'm better than you or in some sort of power position. It's just a sounding board and you're right, if the coach is well trained and well informed and knows what they're doing, then they can provide a lot of clarity for you especially. It's sort of kind of keep pivot points and intersections in your life and look, it's only getting harder up there, right, so right. Yeah, good for you for hiring a coach. Yeah, here's a, here's a pitch. Yeah, hire me.

Speaker 1:

No, I like that. So I only touched on your story when I introduced you, kind of give us your back back, give us the back story.

Speaker 2:

Sure, sure, I kind of see my life in three chapters. The first chapter Was very much about sort of the traditional trappings of success right, so have this and do this and be that, and then you're gonna be happy and fulfilled, right, and that that sort of worked until about I was about 35 and I and I achieved all of those things that were on that list and Felt very what's the word? Just felt very empty and unfulfilled and sort of life without, without, without without meaning. And I was. I was very ambitious back then, ambitious towards a destination of quote-unquote success and and it was amazing. I mean, I traveled the world and and went to incredible places and and, by by every standard, has how I was, I was living an incredible life in Switzerland and in Canada and internationally.

Speaker 2:

And I really woke up one day it was sort of about 2001, and I said to myself all of these things that I've been working for for 15 years are, are Unfulfilling, they, they, they're not, they're all external, they're all material, they're all Well, everything that we're kind of taught, right, that that we're supposed to have and do and be an act and perform, and etc. Etc. If you do all of that, then your life is going to be Fulfilled, right? Well, mine wasn't. So I made a big pivot at that point and I had a bit of a sort of a spiritual awakening that day actually, and just Quit everything, gave everything away, decided to move back to a place.

Speaker 2:

I was living in Switzerland and I was in banking at the time, and you know, pardon me for that, but but forgive me for that I should say, but like I Got into something that I felt was much more rewarding and so I spent the last 20 years and international real estate and international development and and and I loved it.

Speaker 2:

I mean it was, it was, it was, you know, lots of travel, lots of incredible people and and, like I said in my bio, I've kind of been there and seen that all around the world. But there was something still inside of me in in that chapter 2 that really wasn't what's the word. I really still wasn't feeling totally aligned to my purpose in life and my mission and why I'm here, and and you know I have to tell you, keith, that that, that that really now is what I've realized in chapter 3, you know, why am I here, what's my purpose, why what's what's my mission really? So for anybody out there that's kind of seeking and striving and wondering, don't give up, because you know you can, you can have. Your life can be made up of multiple chapters, multiple storylines, and it might just take two or three to fuck to chapters like mine to get to the right place. I love that.

Speaker 1:

So, knowing that you're in this, in this third chapter of your life, this question is probably really relevant for you. So what is your why now?

Speaker 2:

You're right. My why is um I? And I don't know quite how I got to this again, I think it's divine intervention or something, but I know that I'm here. I'm on a mission to help people rediscover their humanity, to live in integrity, to become fearless and free. Now all of those are are interconnected right and by humanity. Find it.

Speaker 2:

Discovering your humanity, I mean, I mean it's essentially as the label describes it, but. But what that means is is if we, just if we remember that we're all human beings on this little planet, you know, flying through the galaxy at spinning on its axle at 1600 kilometers an hour, I think, I think we would have more peace and more joy and more love and more connection, more community and more Of all the things that make the huge, make us humans so wonderful, and less of the things that you know we don't have to dwell on them, but you know toxins and food and war, and homelessness, and addiction and all of those things that are, that are so Challenging for so many people today. So find your humanity so that we can live together on this little rock as one right and and let's let's turn down this idea of Individualization that is, that is so current today and let's talk about humanity and community and connection and local and, and local can have an impact globally. But, yeah, so that's really step one in my, in my mission, and integrity, living in integrity and it means living in authenticity, so being who you really are right and again, I don't mean Trying to distinguish yourself from everybody else, which is, I think, is so current these days. Everybody's got something, you know, different than special, and I'm like, we're all one right, like, so I'm fine with your pronouns, but let's come together and and recognize that we're united.

Speaker 2:

And if you live in authenticity and you live in integrity, it might be hard, right that the adjustment might be hard. You might lose friends, you might lose family members, you might put a job, you might do something, but living in integrity Really means bringing your power to the planet. And if you can bring your power to the planet, you can become fearless, right and and living and working without fear, I think is an incredible Precious thing that we all deserve. And lastly, if you can, if you can, if you can connect with your humanity, live in integrity, be less fearful. And fearful, as you know, keith, it it comes up and it shows up in anxiety and depression and you know all of those, all of those challenges that we're having around health in our countries, yours and mine.

Speaker 2:

And the last thing is freedom, and I mean freedom really from psychological suffering. Right, we as a society and you can see this, the evidence is kind of everywhere we are suffering. So humanity, integrity, freedom and allows you to really become unlimited. So that's my mission as of. I guess it's taken a couple of years to kind of figure it out in this chapter three. But chapter three also involved moving away from Europe, coming back to Canada, settling in a very quiet place. I'm connected to nature and things like that. So I'm what's the word I'm practicing, what I preach, I guess, is what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 1:

That's great, and you did that so succinctly that you connected all those and explained all those different pieces of where you're here and you're now are. We touched a little bit on at the beginning of this about coaching and, like I said, there's many different forms of coaching. There's I guess it's, lifestyle coaching. What separates your concept of coaching from others in your field?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so there's a couple of things, of course. I think it's the experience that you bring to the table. Right, that's kind of a given, okay, everybody brings their own journey and their experience and their stories to the table and I guess, because I've lived and played and worked and succeeded and failed in my life around the world, I bring a whole lot of experience to the table. But I suppose a lot of people could say that I think the difference between what I'm doing and maybe sort of a traditional coaches I really don't like to divide up coaching like that, like you were saying, like a performance coach or a coach or a business coach, right, I think.

Speaker 2:

I really think that's why we created whole human coaching, because we look at people holistically, just because I think in today's culture, when you leave the office and you go home, it's so difficult, or vice versa, right, it's so difficult to divide up and parse up who we really are, right. So I think my difference and my, our team's differences, that we look at you much more holistically and we also tend to push the boundaries of what is traditional coaching, right. So traditional coaching, as you probably know, keeps you on sort of strict models, right, which are fine, but I think life has become so complex and humans live in such a complex world that you need to look at people much more holistically and kind of understand if there's trauma issues small tea or large tea and kind of understand if nutrition and diet is working and and and you know what are the stories. You're telling it yourself in your head. So yeah, long, long answer to probably what should be an easy question, but I think I think it's. It's a world of experience.

Speaker 2:

And then the idea of looking at people holistically, that that, that, yes, if we're doing leadership coaching or if we're doing coaching for a CEO or an executive, you can't just sort of surgically only look at the office or only look at home life. They're only interconnected, I think, today. So that's really, I guess, the. I guess that's the difference between myself and somebody else, I guess.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was a certified coach too and it's interesting because you're right, you can't just pick apart one section. Let me just coach you on your profession without realizing that they're all connected somehow. I think the shift I've seen, that I've noticed in the last 10 years in coaching is this idea of the holistic coaching and you don't parse your life because you can't parse your life in real life. I mean I would love to just say, okay, right now I'm just going to be a husband, I'm just going to be a father, I'm just going to be a pastor. But all those things connect and they go back to what your original point. They're part of your authentic self. If you deny any of those pieces, to say those are not related, then you're ignoring who you really are and a different hats that you get a chance to wear. So yeah, I agree with you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, and look, I mean I think parsing it up and subdividing it, it leaves room for missing things, right, If you're only focused on somebody's life and yet most of their challenges or stress are coming from work or other factors, you need to dive into that and that's why we say go in, find the stories that you're telling yourself in your head and deconstruct them to build new ones. But you can't do that saying, oh, I'm only going to focus on your office work or life coaching, for example.

Speaker 1:

So it's got to be wider holistic, Exactly, or complicated machines.

Speaker 2:

I think in the United States you have 40, the body is like doctors or have 41 different specialties, right. So we're kind of like let's look at the whole thing, not the subdivided subsets.

Speaker 1:

Exactly right. You know, one of the beautiful things about coaching is you have to ask powerful questions, and so if you're helping someone to define their purpose and their mission, maybe they're coming to you because they're stuck. What are some examples of some powerful questions you might ask someone? Help them discover what is their purpose, or refine what their purpose and mission are.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, typically if somebody is stuck, I tend to pardon the pun, but I tend to stay there, right, and the work to do is to discover the stories that you're telling yourself to get to that stuck moment, right? So I guess it's more than one question. It's what are you saying to yourself, what is your belief system, what are your self limiting beliefs? What are you telling yourself? You know, 20,000 times a day, because so often people get stuck because of a whole series of storytelling that's going on in their head. Right, I can't do this, I can't do this, even if it's very subtle. Oh, they want to, you know. So all these things happen.

Speaker 2:

And so for me, getting to unstuck and actually we have a podcast called Getting to Unstuck is all about deconstructing the narratives that are going on in your head. And you know, we're such strange things. We carry these stories for lifetimes, sometimes, right, and then you get to this point where you get stuck and then the stuckness turns into dis-ease, and that I don't mean, you know, terrible diseases, but lack of you know, just not feeling right, feeling off, feeling off center, etc. Etc. So for me, it's not so much let's design your future and we do that right.

Speaker 2:

But the first thing to do to get unstuck is to do an inventory of how you got to hear right, how you got to this point, right, and then for me is okay, this is where you're at, that. You got here. Those are the stories that you've been telling yourself. Which ones are true, right, which ones are serving you? And so often, if you do a little bit of this inventory, you discover that most of them aren't true. Most of them are just stories from the past that you might hold onto and have clung onto for dear life. Right, because that, familiarity not withstanding, it might not be serving you, but the familiarity of those stories keeps you in those, keeps you in those closed loops. So before we do any sort of purpose mission driven work, it's where are you now?

Speaker 1:

So when you're talking about sounds of me like trauma, a lot of people are kind of stuck because of there's some trauma in their life and as a coach, one of the things I know I've struggled with in the past with helping clients realize is that the trauma or the stories we tell ourselves. Because what trauma really is is those stories over and over again that we get trapped in those loops in our head that we can't get out of. So how do you help people deal with the unresolved trauma that may be the thing that's holding them back?

Speaker 2:

Well, again, if you can do this indexing and identification or inventory the stories, right, the stories come from those moments of trauma and they don't have to be big tea trauma, right, they could be small tea stuff, like you are maybe bullied when you're in school, or that's still. That's big, but it might be a divorce. So all of these things that we might consider normal, right, quote unquote that don't get resolved can take you through a life. And I use this metaphor of you are looking at life through opaque lenses, right, it's like having four sets of glasses on that are all opaque. You just you can't see clearly.

Speaker 2:

So to me the work at hand is inventorying those stories and then going and finding out what is the origin of that story. And so often we don't. We're not taught this right, we're not taught to look at our belief system and look at our narratives and stories and figure out where they, where the origin story, comes from. And so often, if you can work through with somebody, what is the origin story of that particular belief right?

Speaker 1:

So, as we're talking about these traumas, colin. We talk about the stories we tell ourselves, and you were saying that oftentimes we have to deal with the fact that those stories we're telling ourselves may not be accurate or true. So how do we begin to maybe reshape the way we look at those stories to better help us to understand there's more there. That's kind of maybe dealing with. That's holding us back, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2:

So I think, once you've done, the inventory of the stories and the narratives right, and the belief systems Right, and you go in to each one. It's got to be really specific, right? This is like designing a house, like the blueprints need to be very accurate, right? So, so what I do with people is we inventory the beliefs and the systems and those stories and everything like that. Then we look at each one and we ask the question is that story serving you? Work? The first question, sorry, is the origin story. What's the origin of that story? Okay, I've had to identify. I know where that's coming from. The third thing to do is to Is I just said it is to ask yourself is it if it's serving you or it's not right? Because some things from the past might serve you, okay, but most of it doesn't right. So so it's it's. It's simply, it's not simple, but it is a recognition that the certain stories that you're telling yourself From the past, you discover the origin story, where they came from, and you ask yourself if they're serving you today. 99% of the time, most of them aren't.

Speaker 2:

So then the job to do is to reconstruct new narratives and new story lines. Right, it's the story of your life. What do you want the next chapter to look like, and that's where you begin to design it, right, let, much like an architect or a sailor charting his course or her course to a new destination. It it you want it to be a very, very intentional right and Just like an architect or just like a sailboat. To get to that point, you need very specific coordinates and you need a plan, and and that's what I, that's what I work on with people that that might be telling themselves Self-limiting beliefs and restrictive stories and that keep you in that loop, right in that closed circle. Oh, I'm just gonna stay here. I know it bang, it's familiar. Oh, I know that story, it's familiar. But they keep you locked in.

Speaker 2:

And and that goes back to that, that first question of mine, of my mission it's like. It's like, if you can free yourself from the psychological suffering from those stories, right, what are the possibilities? And that's the last question that I ask people. Right, and this is this is where this, the spark comes. It's like. It's like how. And if you use an, a metaphor of a fuel tank, right, how much fuel were you spending on those old stories keeping you down? Right, how much? How much energy could you have if you got rid of those stories? What are the possibilities? What's the potential? It's really unlimited, right? So that's the nuts, the nut to crack with With people, and that's the work that we do. I love that.

Speaker 1:

As we think about those old stories and the old traumas. Oftentimes they do Play themselves out in modern times, as we talked about a little bit right now. You know you moved away from Switzerland back to Canada getting connected with nature again. A lot of us are living in some very, very complex times and it's very hard for us to get out of outside of those times and even reconnect with the heart and the power that I would say God has for us to uncover. So how do you help people especially cope in these? You know it's I Almost skip in the morning, is like, I'm afraid, turn the news on or turn on my computer Because there's just so much negative stuff like. So how do we, how do we begin to Right unpack all of that and just survive and cope in this craziness?

Speaker 2:

Sure sure, sure so. So the first thing to do is turn off the news, right, and and but, but. But there's an and there. Right, it's turn off the news and get informed. Okay, those that might seem like a dichotomy, or or or. You know that that doesn't work. But then you have to recognize that things like the news are a product. Right, they're a product for you to consume.

Speaker 2:

Okay, when I say turn off that and get informed, I mean get really informed about what matters to you as a human being in and what matters to you right outside your front door, down the street, in, I don't know, in the ministry or or however you're engaged with your local community, right? I was actually having a conversation about this with a colleague of mine recently who was was, you know, having a hard time with what's going on in the world. Right, I mean, like you say, you just have to Turn on the news and and it's shocking what's happening, not just in the Middle East but everywhere. And I said to her you know, healing, healing and sanity and sense making, start when you turn that off. Get really informed, like, study, read history, geopolitics, understand what's going on in the world, because sense making sense making today in in 2024, is really is a challenge. Right, as you know, there's right and wrong and left and up and down, and you don't know kind of don't know what, which way to look.

Speaker 2:

So Very poorly articulated answer here. What I'm, what I'm really trying to say is it? It's about reclaiming your power, actually, right, so, turning off the news, getting informed, be informed about what you need to be informed on, and recognize and understand that that healing the world starts right here, with you. Right, and healing society and culture and everything, and even the climate and the environment, it starts with you and it's an intentional. I call it creating a personal protection system.

Speaker 2:

It's almost like having your own kryptonite security system around you, and the way to do that is to have a very clear idea of where you're going in the world, right, so we call it your personal and professional toolkit, your leadership toolkit. Understand what your personal brand is and that's connected to your purpose and meaning and why you're here, right? And the third element of that sort of tripod of personal protection is to sense make in the world and to understand how it all actually works. And there's long form podcasts and there's books and journals and sub-stack. You know, the interesting thing, or the positive element of the internet and social media is that now you and I can be as informed as anyone, any journalist, around the world. So it is creating those foundations of destination and toolkit and personal branding and sense making that will allow you to have a firm grounding in this world.

Speaker 2:

Because, you're right, it is complex, it's crazy, but at the same time, there's a lot out there. There's a lot of people that are doing good. There's a lot happening around innovations and technology in the future that are all extremely positive, right, so I? And there's great resources out there for not sitting and doom scrolling all day. Right, there was a great video I'll send it to you that I saw recently. It was like the antidote to the doom and gloom and it was five it's on YouTube, but it's five futurists, so people that are looking at trends and mega trends in the future, and they're really positive. So I guess, long answer short. You know, pull yourself back, walk, pull away. Pull away from the junk food, right, and I don't mean just the McDonald's, I mean pull away from the junk food that you're consuming, right, and get enriched and that'll give you a solid, you know, a much more solid foundation to deal with the scary stuff.

Speaker 1:

That's good advice. So, colin, I'm curious what are you excited about in this phase of your life?

Speaker 2:

You know it's really just expanding my mission and it took me until I was in my 50s to figure it out. And that's why I'm on it, because I think you know you don't have to wait as long as I do, you don't have to go through three chapters like I did, you don't have to be divorced and bankrupt and depressed, and you know you don't have to go through all of that right, but there's the. I mean maybe you have to, but I'm just trying to accelerate people's sense of self and place in this world. So that's all I wanna do is just keep expanding that.

Speaker 1:

That's great. I love to ask my guest this question what do you want your legacy in the world to be?

Speaker 2:

Oh God, that's a good one. I just wanna be able to impact and change as many people's lives as possible. So you know, at a whole human coaching, we're creating a movement. We're creating a movement about bringing humanity back into the workplace and bringing humanity back into the house and the play place, and we are. That's what I'd like to be known for and remembered for. That I and my colleagues and friends and associates and people like you that we're working with that we change the world, make it a better place, make it human-centric and not, you know, sort of corporate-centric. And the individualization that's happened over time and the divisiveness and the division that's happened I wanna bring it all back back to a different time.

Speaker 1:

That's an admirable goal. It really is. Because it is so hard to just wake up and not and push through and to put out positive content because my goal is to give people positive content, because we have enough negative. But how do you connect with people that also share that, so you realize that you're not alone in the world, that you're not the only person that wants something better than what we have?

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, and you know, keith, I think it feels as though there is an awakening. Yeah, I don't know about you, but just you know I was on 50 podcasts last year and there I mean that's just so brilliant that there's thousands of people out there like you and me just wanting this place to be a better place to live on. I mean, it's a little rock flying through the galaxy. Let's get with the program. You know, unless Elon Musk accelerates things, we're not going to Mars anytime soon.

Speaker 1:

Right, exactly.

Speaker 2:

Let's make this place as best we can you know.

Speaker 1:

Until the rock is stop exploding, we can't cut on that. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. Well, yeah right, it's going to be a while, so make the best of this. Exactly that's what I say.

Speaker 1:

So from my listeners who are going, you know, I think I want Colin as my coach. How can they connect with you and what can I find you on?

Speaker 2:

social media. You can find me on Instagram, just Colin Kingsmill, or at ColinKingsmillcom or at wholehumancoachingcom. Whole human coaching is where we work with teams and leaders and help people rethink and reimagine the workplace and the workforce, and at my coaching business, I work with CEOs and founders and people that are trying to make the world a different place. So I'm easily findable. Yeah, you can't miss me. Tight me up.

Speaker 1:

Colin, thanks so much for sharing your content and for your vision and your I would say your inspiration, because you have a positive attitude and I like that. We need more of that from people, especially people who are former bankers.

Speaker 2:

And current bankers.

Speaker 1:

Current bankers right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's lots of room for improvement. Let's just say that Right.

Speaker 1:

But thank you for what you do. I really do appreciate and I appreciate you giving my audience some positive content, some hopefulness, sense of purpose and just mission and vision and realize about being their authentic self and freedom and living away from fear. I mean all those are important aspects of it.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we can do this. It does not have to be like this. That is my last sort of message to everybody in your audience. It doesn't have to be like this, but you need to break out of that, break out of the old mold.

Speaker 1:

Well, Colin, thanks so much. Have a blessed new year.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much. Same to you, looking forward to seeing you again sometime, me too.

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