Becoming Bridge Builders

How to Balance Your Work, Family and Personal Life

October 20, 2022 Keith Haney Season 4 Episode 126
Becoming Bridge Builders
How to Balance Your Work, Family and Personal Life
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Show Notes Transcript

You have so many responsibilities from your family, to your work, to your personal time so how do you keep all those balls in the air? My guest today shares how he learn to keep his life in alignment. 
Jason Skeesick is a US Army veteran, coach, and entrepreneurial evangelist. He is a father, husband, fighter, and carrier of heavy things. His company Spear and Clover helps businesses with good leaders, talented teams, and strong playbooks go from contenders to championship teams.
Jason offers private 1:1 coaching as well as small group "forums" that are for masterminding with other peers.
Check him out at: www.spearandclover.com

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[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

one to day

[jason_skeesick]:

keith thank you so much for having me i am actually buzzing i just had another great interview i always have more energy when i get off of calls like this and i'm really excited to talk to you today

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i'm excited but i'm dying of and how you how your life journey was got

[jason_skeesick]:

i lost you you're breaking up keith yah

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

oh

[jason_skeesick]:

h

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

there you go

[jason_skeesick]:

yeah you broke up

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

can

[jason_skeesick]:

for

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

you

[jason_skeesick]:

a minute

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

see kay i'm looking forward to having you on and kind of figuring out how your life journey is going so this is be exciting conversation

[jason_skeesick]:

no it's always evolving man

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

it's a

[jason_skeesick]:

i've you know like everybody i've got a

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

like

[jason_skeesick]:

long and winding road that i've got behind me and hopefully a lot longer and a lot windier road coming forward so i'm happy to talk about any part of that well whether it's the military or corporate work or entrepreneur

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

a word

[jason_skeesick]:

ship

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

ah

[jason_skeesick]:

are now coaching others you know these are things and podcasting these are things that i've i've loved doing i'm happy to talk about any of it

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

gee let's try with the easy question so s to best advice she never received

[jason_skeesick]:

oh my gosh

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

yeah ah

[jason_skeesick]:

the best advice i ever received would probably be something along the lines of love the struggle or learn from failures like love failure love struggle like i've actually really developed a close positive relationship with when things don't go right it used to be imagine something simple like you're going on you're going on a trip yu're going to a concert you're going to a concert re gonna c j z great that story would be boring

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

or

[jason_skeesick]:

if everything went exactly the way you wanted to go but let's say you're going to j s and then you get a flat tire

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

then you get

[jason_skeesick]:

and then you're standing on the side of the road and a our team pulls up in their bus and then you get on the bus and they say

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

get

[jason_skeesick]:

well we're going near that stadium will take you there but instead they realized they took you to a totally different stadium and now you show up somewhere else and there's a totally different see where this is going so it's like the no no no

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

no

[jason_skeesick]:

thing

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

no

[jason_skeesick]:

that went perfectly is a great story great stories come from things that go imperfectly right and so at

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

right

[jason_skeesick]:

some point i went from hating when things didn't go the way i hoped they would to then maybe level two was

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

and

[jason_skeesick]:

like

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

maybe

[jason_skeesick]:

at first i don't like it

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i

[jason_skeesick]:

but i

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

do

[jason_skeesick]:

learn a lesson from it that's good and now i get excited

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

now

[jason_skeesick]:

start to go wrong because now i'm like i know this as long as we're not talking about life and limb now i know that there's going to be a great story

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i know

[jason_skeesick]:

on the other end of this and what great lesson how am i going to get better by the unexpected thing that's about to happen m

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

so let me ask a question did you get that from being midletary because i know my son was in terry

[jason_skeesick]:

yeah

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

said that they purposely don't tell them what's going to happen next and they throw obstacles on the road so they learn how to overcome obstacles i did not have any part in this mind set that you have

[jason_skeesick]:

a hundred percent i will tell you it took me probably an additional five or ten years after the military to really you know give that thing the hug that it deserved but but yeah absolutely so when i was in the military i went i served in the army i was a network communications engineer

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

that was

[jason_skeesick]:

which is a fancy word for saying i dug holes and i pulled cable right and i lived in germany and we deployed

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

lived

[jason_skeesick]:

to irak

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

in germany

[jason_skeesick]:

twice

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

and

[jason_skeesick]:

and when we were in i rack we would have one digging machine and one drill and one set of drill

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

one

[jason_skeesick]:

bits and one whatever and the nearest replacement for those things was cut or maybe bagdad right which is really dangerous and very difficult to get things from and so all the time you would be

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

all

[jason_skeesick]:

on

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

the time

[jason_skeesick]:

some job on some mission we got to

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

job

[jason_skeesick]:

get

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i'm

[jason_skeesick]:

on this wall excuse me got to get a hole in this wall so we can pull cable through it or whatever the task may be and then the drill bit breaks what do you do well o man we had to grab a chisel and then we're doing this and so you figure out how to overcome the these things and by the way you do

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

by the

[jason_skeesick]:

it

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

way

[jason_skeesick]:

side by side with people who you never would have pick to be your friends and these guys are our best friends

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

yeah

[jason_skeesick]:

you know we came from all over the country

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

o

[jason_skeesick]:

we came from every silk socio economic background every religion every race every background ethnic and and uh and financial backgrounds and now it's us fifteen twenty

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

us

[jason_skeesick]:

fifty people depending on the unit it's us and we got to get this done and there's nobody coming to fix it so that thing

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

wow

[jason_skeesick]:

really started the process of understanding like that's how it's supposed to go i think jacko willing says good something broke

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

oh

[jason_skeesick]:

good now we get to figure out how good we are at solving problems now we get to figure out how good we are at coming together as a team now we get to figure out which one of us is going to be creative

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

one

[jason_skeesick]:

and take charge and make sure this thing it's accomplished in the time and way that we needed to

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

so thinking about your time and on the river is the greatest lesson you learned from bringing servin military

[jason_skeesick]:

um i think probably

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

oh

[jason_skeesick]:

that it's a lot easier to do the thing that sounds hard now well the first time as opposed to

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i

[jason_skeesick]:

trying really

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

the

[jason_skeesick]:

hard and working really hard to get away from it to get around it i used to be a much bigger procrastinator i used to be a much bigger you know if somebody wanted to volunteer i would step backwards before i went into the military you know what i mean and now

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

right

[jason_skeesick]:

i'm the first person to take responsibility because what i found was in the miltrtpeople will tell you just volunteer for everything and it seems dumb because they don't ask you it's very rare that

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

on

[jason_skeesick]:

they ask you to volunteer and they go here's two tickets to the super bowl you know like

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

a oh

[jason_skeesick]:

and by the way it would happen sometimes they would get a couple of a thing there's a dinner tonight here you go have fun but most of the time hey we need two volunteers all right great yu're gonna go clean the latrines you're gonna you empty them out and go get rid of the

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

oh

[jason_skeesick]:

waste and all this horrible horrible things but when you do that enough you realize isn't so bad

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i

[jason_skeesick]:

i'm just out here working with my buddies we're getting things done if you ask my mother

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

you

[jason_skeesick]:

when i was over and i rack working seven

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i was

[jason_skeesick]:

and twelve hour days working our butts off digging holes in the desert under an twenty degrees i would get on the phone with here and i'd be like mom i'm having the best time in my life i'm making these great friends i'm getting in shape rose the pounds i'm doing great and she'd be like aren't you at war and i'd be like yeah but it's great

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

interesting

[jason_skeesick]:

yeah

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

so tell me something about yourself that most people don't know

[jason_skeesick]:

ah well i have a lot of hobbies

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

a lot of

[jason_skeesick]:

i am somebody that

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

oh

[jason_skeesick]:

does i just got back from a week long jigitzu camp i do kick boxing i've done cross it for many years i'm a wood worker something that people don't know about me i used

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

oh

[jason_skeesick]:

to really like poetry that would be something that probably nobody would know i used to love going to

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

interesting

[jason_skeesick]:

like live poetry slams look at my my posture tightened up when you asked that trying to think of something that would be

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

yeah

[jason_skeesick]:

useful oh i can eat a big mack in one bite

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

wow

[jason_skeesick]:

yeah

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

you're really hungry to have a big

[jason_skeesick]:

i got

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

mouth

[jason_skeesick]:

i got a big mouth

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

so what is your passion all was no kind of one of the things that gets you up in the mind keeps you going what's something that you're most passionate about

[jason_skeesick]:

i love helping people

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

a

[jason_skeesick]:

bring their visions to reality whether it's entrepreneurs whether it's somebody who wants to lose in the past it was fitness it i had a cross fit gym for twelve years i still own part of that i spent my time helping

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

right

[jason_skeesick]:

people who didn't see who they thought they should be when they looked in the mirror i loved helping them reveal that person in reality that they wanted to be in their mind and then i got hooked and really addicted when i started to coach entrepreneurs who have this vision of how the world could be and they can't help but take action i love kind of being the

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

love

[jason_skeesick]:

shepherd that helps guide them that mountain whatever that mountain is

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

whatever

[jason_skeesick]:

so i love helping

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i

[jason_skeesick]:

people

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

love

[jason_skeesick]:

to reveal their vision for how the world could be as best as i possibly

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

yeah

[jason_skeesick]:

can i've never gotten off of a call i said this twice now never got enough call with an entrepreneur with less energy than when i got on the call

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

so entrees are an interesting group of people what is the most common misconception about antroprenur because we don't think that to be one you have to have either this amazing brain or great luck but what is something that's most would it imagine about entrepreneurs

[jason_skeesick]:

probably that

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i

[jason_skeesick]:

entrepreneurs typically are not almost almost no entrepreneurs are driven by money usually that's

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

she

[jason_skeesick]:

corporate executives

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

for

[jason_skeesick]:

that are driven by money that that works at tota to be a you know chief executive officer that's who's driven by money is people that use this corporate ladder to maneuver themselves into a position where their salary goes up in their if it's go up and they have these great qualities of life entrepreneurs are people who whenever somebody whenever there's an opportunity to take responsibility they raise their hand and then whenever they look at almost

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

then when

[jason_skeesick]:

anything

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

lo

[jason_skeesick]:

an entrepreneur can look at an empty field and say that's where the building is going to go and not only that but this is the business that it's going to be and this is the name of that business here's how we'll market it entrepreneurs see their visionaries they see the world as

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

the

[jason_skeesick]:

it

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

world

[jason_skeesick]:

could be and so i think a lot of people think entrepreneurs

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

so i

[jason_skeesick]:

are you know you throw around words that have a

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

you

[jason_skeesick]:

negative

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

throw around

[jason_skeesick]:

connotation

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

words

[jason_skeesick]:

like the one percent or you know the elite or something like that i find it to be the opposite i think most entrepreneurs mark zakerburg was on joe rogan the other day really illuminated to me he never thought that what he was doing was going to be the biggest social media platform in the world with three and a half billion people what he thought was that there was this thing missing at harvard he went to harvard he was like there's no there's no website for us

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

no

[jason_skeesick]:

to all talk to each other and share photos and information about ourselves he's like i could do that and so

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i

[jason_skeesick]:

he did it and so the reason they were so successful at least early on i don't i don't know enough about to that but the reason they were so successful early on wasn't because mark kerber wanted to be a billionaire i'm sure he didn't not want to be a millionaire but it was because he saw something that was missing in the world and he couldn't

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

the

[jason_skeesick]:

help but use the skills you had to take take action and make it happen that's the thing about entrepneurs that really makes them move

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

we had a class in that this summer last summer actually about entrepreneorship and the phrase that stuck out to me about treprenes was based before um like you just said you know they see the thing before other people see it and then they act on that so it's this idea that it's not that they may be brighter and some but sometime they're trying to solve a problem that we all know and realize deep down that's a problem but they see the solution before anyone else does and they act on it

[jason_skeesick]:

yeah i think that's that's a good way to put it for sure

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

yeah so how did you apply because you said you archie tell us first of all your archebelial journey

[jason_skeesick]:

yeah

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

from how do you get from being a military to be someone who coaches entrepeause i love to hear this story

[jason_skeesick]:

so it

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

so

[jason_skeesick]:

occurred to me really recently i didn't know this about myself until this year i figured it out this year when

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i

[jason_skeesick]:

i was on a podcast or something and what i realized was

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

what

[jason_skeesick]:

my whole life i would

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

a

[jason_skeesick]:

go deeply into the things that i loved i'm a d d which is code for entrepreneurs disease right by the way uh

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

yeah

[jason_skeesick]:

and and when i was a kid i loved snow boarding worked at the snow board hill i liked having cool clothes

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

like

[jason_skeesick]:

i worked at the mall i loved cars i worked at the shop i always tried to make the loved playing pool and poker i worked at the pool hall i worked casino for real and the jobs that i didn't do well i drove a delivery truck for a bread company one week i made mattresses at a ceilin manufacture one month the only jobs that i didn't do well are the ones that i didn't have a connection to in my passion right i didn't know that about myself until i was thirty

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

that

[jason_skeesick]:

eight years old but when i look back on it it's so obvious so i go to the military which i needed desperately um go to the military had my time in the military will cut over that for now um and when i got out i moved to the city of chicago well what do i need i need a great laptop and i need an ex i bike in my mind because i need to get around town and i need to have i'm goin to go to school and dot i can't afford the bike and i can't afford the laptop so i did what garry v did i started and this was before garv but i started flipping things on crag i started a small business it didn't have a name it didn't have an l l c but i would

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

oh

[jason_skeesick]:

buy a bike that i could afford i would fix it up a little bit using youtube videos and learning whatever i could and then i'd sell it for a little more then i paid

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

a

[jason_skeesick]:

for

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

little

[jason_skeesick]:

it

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

more

[jason_skeesick]:

and i did that enough to where i have a few thousand dollar bikes down in the basement

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

no

[jason_skeesick]:

now that i've still had for you know ten years or fifteen years or whatever and i did the same thing with computers and at a certain point i just realized okay this is something i have to do i have to invest my time into these things that i'm super passionate about and if i'm really passionate about it maybe i can have some positive benefit at the time it wasn't money cut to the g i bill from the military was modified and improved under george bush where we were all called the yellow

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

where

[jason_skeesick]:

ribbon

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

we

[jason_skeesick]:

program

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

were

[jason_skeesick]:

and it's the new g i bill and basicall it meant that we could go to a nice private school and they would not only pay for the school

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

no

[jason_skeesick]:

but also giving us

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

school

[jason_skeesick]:

give us a

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

but

[jason_skeesick]:

living expense and so it released me from having to work a full time you know trade job which was what i was doing um and allowed me to go to school for finance

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

allow me to

[jason_skeesick]:

at

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

go

[jason_skeesick]:

de

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

to

[jason_skeesick]:

paul

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

so

[jason_skeesick]:

and at the same time i was doing

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

at

[jason_skeesick]:

that

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

the time i was

[jason_skeesick]:

my friend and i were starting to do a cross fit best friend and he was like hey man i don't want to pay two hundred and fifty dollars two hundred and fifty dollars a month and i couldn't afford that i's

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

wow

[jason_skeesick]:

like i don't want to pay two hundred and fifty dollars a month to go to cross fit and i was like okay

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

ah

[jason_skeesick]:

and he goes why don't we just get a cheap rental and we'll buy some equipment and maybe take on a couple of clients to pay for it all ourselves great let's do it i said s immediately wasn't even my idea um and that company started

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

a

[jason_skeesick]:

very small is called bucktown cross fit originally chicago elite fitness um and that company still today exists um and at the time at the same time i was going to school for finance so i'm learning all this interesting stuff about business i'm learning i'm thinking in my mind i've got this little hobby this little cross fit thing but i really want to be a titan of

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i really

[jason_skeesick]:

industry

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

want to be

[jason_skeesick]:

in my

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

it

[jason_skeesick]:

and at twenty six or whatever i'm gonna be a titan of industry we're going to go into banking we're going make all this money and we're going to be in suits all the time we're av our hair slicked back and all that b s that you know people think when they're young and impression and that they think that's the path right um so i do that i get the i

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i

[jason_skeesick]:

i

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

do

[jason_skeesick]:

get the degree i get hired by the biggest bank in the world at one of the best starting jobs you can get there and i do okay um i think probably middle of the pack um as far as that but every single day i've got

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i

[jason_skeesick]:

jobs

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

got

[jason_skeesick]:

that are

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

h

[jason_skeesick]:

twenty million dollars hundred million dollars five million dollars fifth million dollars and you know what i was doing keith i was modeling my seven thousand dollars a month jim i was sitting there working on

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

o wow

[jason_skeesick]:

i'm doing excell

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

yeah

[jason_skeesick]:

stuff i'm learning all this stuff from

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i'm

[jason_skeesick]:

the big

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

learning

[jason_skeesick]:

dogs

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

all this stuff

[jason_skeesick]:

and

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

from

[jason_skeesick]:

all i want to do figure out how i can like get that next pair of bar bells and get a new set of pull up bars and all this other stuff and i'm trying to like financially engineer it and all this other stuff so super focused on my own stuff i'm focused on helping my community and making things better and getting fitter with people and growing this this experience this tribe right um so did that for a few years still stayed in that job um and along the way i joined professional organization that focused on helping gym owners to grow their businesses called jim launch started by a guy named alex her mose shout out to him fantastic um and i went from that was at that moment where i said okay this thing either needs to grow or it needs to die it can't just be this is seven years in we're not gonna just languish right we had about ninety members at that time so i said all right we're gonna run this thing like a business we're going to treat it with the disrespect that it deserves and so i put into play the stuff that i learned in that organization as well as some others and we went from ninety members to like four hundred members in like eighteen months so we turned things around we got we built a team we were able to fulfill for our clients such a higher level and then at a certain point they tapped me on the shoulder and they ask if i would help them do some coaching of other gym owners because we have done very well and so the first day that i did that i fell in love and i've never looked back so i coached for them for a little while

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

a little

[jason_skeesick]:

but it

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

while

[jason_skeesick]:

wasn't an opportunity that i could pursue as like a full time career and i'm really not an employe so at a certain point i opened my own business with another partner and we started to build our own product in our own coaching around you know jim owners of all types and i did that for the last

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

and i did

[jason_skeesick]:

you know i've been coaching jim owners entrepreneurs for about four years now and then at a certain point i just realized that i wanted to open that up beyond fitness and start to work with entrepreneurs

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

fitness

[jason_skeesick]:

because i don't think it's a limit of fitness we're not talking about reps and sets we're not talking

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

yes

[jason_skeesick]:

about weight lost journeys we're talking about core values we're about mission we're talking about how do i take the thing that i'm passionate about and i know well as the owner how do i take that and give that to my team so that they can go out and do a great job and i don't have to be you know the hands and arms every single operation in the business and how do i get it so more people find out about this mission that we're on and we can get more and more clients so we can impact

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

more and

[jason_skeesick]:

the

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

more

[jason_skeesick]:

world in a bigger and bigger way and so those are the things that i'm interested in

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

the

[jason_skeesick]:

now and it's it's really what i like to help people to do in their own businesses

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

so what i'm picking up for you is find nothing you're passionate about because you you put your time and effort into it to make it successful

[jason_skeesick]:

yeah yeah absolutely once

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

yeah

[jason_skeesick]:

had a mentor once tell me shout out to mike bled so a mentor once told me there's three types of work there's work that you cannot do

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

work

[jason_skeesick]:

you're

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

that

[jason_skeesick]:

not good at it you can't do it don't try don't do that i should not be an accountant right there's work that you can do but at the end of the day it drains you every day you go home tired you don't want to go back the next day it just takes something from you and then there work that you can do where it seems like no matter how much of it you do you get energy and so i'm not here to tell you that you should do

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i'm

[jason_skeesick]:

what

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

not

[jason_skeesick]:

i do but i'm going to tell you that this is what i do that gives

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

a

[jason_skeesick]:

me energy every day and i now or need a nap brother and so i would recommend to your audience find that third type of work that gives

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

third

[jason_skeesick]:

you energy

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

a

[jason_skeesick]:

and maybe it's not a hundred percent of the job you're doing or the roles that you have but maybe over time maybe it's fifty per cent maybe it's twenty percent but over time you make it so more and more of your day

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

more

[jason_skeesick]:

is full of those things that give you energy

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

so you've had an interesting life

[jason_skeesick]:

yes

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

my question in you is where did you say is your greatest accomplishment in life

[jason_skeesick]:

oh well i'd probably get in a lot of trouble if i didn't say marrying my beautiful wife donna and having beautiful daughter lucy my greatest accomplishment in life probably was every time somebody tells me that i helped them to

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i

[jason_skeesick]:

make

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

help

[jason_skeesick]:

their business stronger and by stronger i mean to reach more

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

one

[jason_skeesick]:

people to have better results for their clients

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

better

[jason_skeesick]:

to make a living for not just themselves

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

a living

[jason_skeesick]:

but to pay the rent of employes every time i see somebody on a call and i see their eyes light up like i hit him like i got him that moment to me is my best accomplishment

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

moment to

[jason_skeesick]:

and

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

me

[jason_skeesick]:

it happens a lot because you know

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

you know

[jason_skeesick]:

if you only ever read the

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

you

[jason_skeesick]:

book rich

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

only

[jason_skeesick]:

dad

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

ever

[jason_skeesick]:

poor

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

read

[jason_skeesick]:

dad and every day you talked to somebody

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

every day

[jason_skeesick]:

knew who never read that book you could blow somebody's mind every

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

some

[jason_skeesick]:

single day right and so hopefully

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

right

[jason_skeesick]:

it's not that i'm a genius i'm not i'm not a genius i've learned some things that

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

but

[jason_skeesick]:

other people just didn't have time to learn and if i can teach it to them in an effective communicating way and i can help

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i

[jason_skeesick]:

them to implement that there in their company here's the life cycle the life cycle is

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

so

[jason_skeesick]:

i like it i'm just gonna use fitness as the example i like fitness so i work out it changes my life great

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

my life

[jason_skeesick]:

people take notice some friends go

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

no

[jason_skeesick]:

hey i noticed fitness change your life help

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

no

[jason_skeesick]:

me sure so now i have three people this is real hanging out in my back yard we're

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

hang

[jason_skeesick]:

doing fitness

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

back

[jason_skeesick]:

it changes their life great so now we go

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

great

[jason_skeesick]:

okay we should probably get a space

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

we go

[jason_skeesick]:

all right so now i have twenty people twenty people fitness changes their life at a certain point

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

at

[jason_skeesick]:

have a hundred

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

it

[jason_skeesick]:

and

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

have

[jason_skeesick]:

then go

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

yeah

[jason_skeesick]:

and reach out to an owner and i say hey you have a hundred members i can help you change their life and then my impact grows every time i'm helping somebody knew my impact on the world grows and now with a podcast i give that away for free right and with coaching i can give that to more and more people and so we can multiply this effect over time and a lot of the stuff that i teach people it's not original it's just

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

no

[jason_skeesick]:

stuff that i had the

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

it's

[jason_skeesick]:

time

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

just

[jason_skeesick]:

to learn that

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

a

[jason_skeesick]:

may they didn't

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

a so you mention your podcast spear and clover so tell us what how you started and why

[jason_skeesick]:

yeah

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

and when you hope to a copper through your podcast

[jason_skeesick]:

so that's a great question so sperm clover podcast was started i sold most of the gym and i sold my other business last year so so two business in the last two years and i had a child under one so i just decided two things one

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

so

[jason_skeesick]:

i'm not going to do anything to try to make money for a year nothing i'm just going to have a year of service i'm going to reach out to people can help i'm gonna help them if i can and i'm going to connect them to other people who they can be helped by and they can help each other i'm a big believer in net working with my friends and those people that are really awesome in my life that's the first thing and the second thing was i grew up listen to talk radio and then it was audio books and as soon as podcast came out dam i jumped on that too i love this art form i love this medium and i knew that if i started a podcast i would fall in love

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

ted

[jason_skeesick]:

and so here's an opportunity where i

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

here's

[jason_skeesick]:

don't

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

an

[jason_skeesick]:

need to make money during the podcast and i can just talk to people like you kiss

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

just

[jason_skeesick]:

i can just get on and figure out what your super power is and what you're interested in and why that matters and how it's going to change the world and that will influence me and so spend clover podcast was my version

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

my

[jason_skeesick]:

of that and so if we talk about specifically what it is i like to say the spear and clover podcast is where military mind set meets the spirit of the puppy and i'll explain that so i have these these five core values

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

have

[jason_skeesick]:

but two of them are who i am one is military mind set that's discipline that's hard work that's showing up on time and taking responsibility for everything in my my purview and then i have spear of the puppy

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

no

[jason_skeesick]:

that's

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

spirit

[jason_skeesick]:

un

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

of

[jason_skeesick]:

playful i'm fun i love

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i'm

[jason_skeesick]:

to meet new people i'm always smiling if you walk in my gym

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

a

[jason_skeesick]:

and i'm in the very back my ms get real big and it's hey keith what's up buddy that's the spirit of the puppy so i'm always hard charging towards my goals but i take time enjoy things

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

but i

[jason_skeesick]:

i have

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

take

[jason_skeesick]:

hobbies i have new friendships i get passionate about things and the people that i get along with best they share

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

along

[jason_skeesick]:

that in common they're not only hard charging towards their

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

not

[jason_skeesick]:

goals but they're also taking time to enjoy their lives and enrich the lives of others as well

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

so as an antropremutr who may be starting out and we're trying to find that balance how do you that how do you have the passion for your work but still have the time to enjoy your life and your family

[jason_skeesick]:

that's a really good question i think for me i think first of all there's a sliding scale

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i call

[jason_skeesick]:

and it's your age it's your age a slash like your family situation the more mature on

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

more

[jason_skeesick]:

that scale you are let's say you're you know thirty five and you've got three children and you're married and you have a mortgage well you can't necessarily take same steps as you can when you're twenty or you're twenty five and you have no significant other and no children right so bear that in mind with the answer but i like to think not of work life balance i like to think of worth work life integration i'm always working

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i

[jason_skeesick]:

but

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

always

[jason_skeesick]:

as an entrepreneur i'm also never working which means i can clock out whenever i have to and i structure

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

and

[jason_skeesick]:

day every single day i train at the gym for for two and a half hours i go do kick boxing and brazilian digits every single morning it's non negotiable you cannot book a time on my calendar from those times before that i the morning i wake

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

for

[jason_skeesick]:

up with my daughter we sit we lay around she has a bottle we watch a little bit of cartoons we play we go out in the back yard with the dogs i've carved out time for my family and for these training things now maybe you don't have four hours

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

maybe

[jason_skeesick]:

a

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

you

[jason_skeesick]:

day

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

don't

[jason_skeesick]:

where you can carve

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

for

[jason_skeesick]:

those things out but you have you have control over your schedule and so when when you talk about work life balance what i like to do is i like to if somebody's telling me he to be an entrepreneur here's my dream let's call that the mountain they want to climb if i understand exactly what the mountain is that you want to climb what is it like what does it taste like how much money do you make when do you wake up morning how many hours

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

you wake

[jason_skeesick]:

do you

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

up

[jason_skeesick]:

work

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

in the morn

[jason_skeesick]:

how

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

how

[jason_skeesick]:

many

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

many

[jason_skeesick]:

employes do you have

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

how

[jason_skeesick]:

how

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

many

[jason_skeesick]:

much money do you make all these things

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

all these things

[jason_skeesick]:

i can tell you exactly

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i can

[jason_skeesick]:

how

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

tell

[jason_skeesick]:

to get

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

you

[jason_skeesick]:

there because if you want to go up that mountain then you can never take a step that leads to a different mountain and so the more clearly i understand what mountain

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

clearly

[jason_skeesick]:

i want

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i

[jason_skeesick]:

to climb it's just such an easy thin especially as a coach who is not emotionally

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

cilly

[jason_skeesick]:

involved to just say well is that a step further

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

said

[jason_skeesick]:

or a step closer and then that's how you guide yourself to

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

and

[jason_skeesick]:

it and so if i decide you know i'd like to have monday mornings free to myself

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

like

[jason_skeesick]:

to go for a walk with my daughter well

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

a

[jason_skeesick]:

maybe i can't do that today but maybe if i set up my schedule

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

a

[jason_skeesick]:

in such a way maybe in the next month i can have monday morning's free and maybe it costs me a little bit of time on friday afternoon

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

little bit

[jason_skeesick]:

but eventually over time i can engineer the life that i want does that make sense

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

it does make sense i like that so speaking of the life you want to speaking about the mountain you just pointed to what do you watch a legacy to b

[jason_skeesick]:

it's a great question i think that ultimately i'd like to be remembered

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i

[jason_skeesick]:

as somebody who genuinely loved meeting developing relationships

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

that

[jason_skeesick]:

with and helping other people in particular those people who want to make big impacts on the world i don't ever need to meet

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

don't

[jason_skeesick]:

bill

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

ever

[jason_skeesick]:

gates

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

need

[jason_skeesick]:

or joe ogan or the rock or any of the people that are super famous but i would love to

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i

[jason_skeesick]:

meet the kid who's trying to figure out an engineering solution for cleaning up the ocean in south africa right i want to meet that guy and i want help him and if i can think of

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

want

[jason_skeesick]:

something

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

to

[jason_skeesick]:

that i can introduce him tduce somebody i can introduce him to that maybe will help that journey and make it a little easier than my job is done i think of myself keith

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

myself

[jason_skeesick]:

i think of everybody as having like a role in a medieval town like we all have these kind of archetypal roles like some people are carpenters they love to build things some people are teachers they love to teach things some people are fishermen they

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

people

[jason_skeesick]:

love to

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

are

[jason_skeesick]:

sell

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

efficient

[jason_skeesick]:

or they love to

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

you

[jason_skeesick]:

acquire

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

want to sell

[jason_skeesick]:

things

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

or

[jason_skeesick]:

right

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

they

[jason_skeesick]:

like the they catch as many fish as they can in a day and then they get a bigger boat and they catch more fish and they get ten boats right i know those guys that's not me i'm a shepard i want to

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i

[jason_skeesick]:

guide you over the pass i want to take you where you need to be and i want to it is as positive and effective as i can while i do that's how i get energies by helping

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

how

[jason_skeesick]:

kind of shepherd people towards those things that they want to do

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

so i'm always curious who are your heroes

[jason_skeesick]:

oh well i spent a week with

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

well

[jason_skeesick]:

a

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i

[jason_skeesick]:

joco

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

spent a

[jason_skeesick]:

willings

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

week with

[jason_skeesick]:

camp last week he's definitely on the list you know joe rogan i think is on the list for a podcasthing hero i think i think he's somebody incredibly under appreciated

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

under

[jason_skeesick]:

for for how valuable he is and part of his value is the ability to really try to see other people's point of views than his own i think that's an incredible incredibly mat thing that so few people ever are able to do you know i put a post out about two weeks ago that was about loving your enemies and i really believe that i think

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i really

[jason_skeesick]:

that when somebody disagrees with me or i have some sort of conflict like not always able to do it but

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

not

[jason_skeesick]:

i'd

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

always

[jason_skeesick]:

like to be able to be like well why do they feel that way they must have a reason if i can understand that reason

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

if i can

[jason_skeesick]:

not only will it make me

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

not

[jason_skeesick]:

less

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

will

[jason_skeesick]:

emotionally involved with it but also maybe give me an idea of how we can come to terms and settle this right whatever it is could be cut

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

whatever

[jason_skeesick]:

off in traffic could be a business partner who you don't agree with could be a wife who's the most difficult spouse is the most difficult to stay clean with but but yeah those are probably my heroes

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

yeah

[jason_skeesick]:

i mean i'm who else there's so few there there's nobody that i'd rather be there's so few other people that i put on a pedestal it's just hard when you when you see

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

hard

[jason_skeesick]:

so many good ideas and good things those two people in particular and there i'm sure a couple of others but yeah i think those guys are those

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

yeah

[jason_skeesick]:

guys have some stuff figured out that's that's pretty cool

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

that's cool anything i haven't asked you that i should have asked you

[jason_skeesick]:

um probably

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

um

[jason_skeesick]:

not i can tell you that m here's a little bit about what i do unfortunately i'm a bear's fan and as a bear's fool

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i used to go to chicago so

[jason_skeesick]:

yeah

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

is pain

[jason_skeesick]:

uh as a bear's fan for like the last thirty years of my life or longer

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

the years

[jason_skeesick]:

every year i see them hire a new coach who had success in another team and i see them draft really great talent and maybe trade for some pro ball talent that comes over and they go out and they get these you know brilliant young minds have had tons of success writing these play books and writing these tactical things that maybe well we're going to win they put all the people

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

we're

[jason_skeesick]:

together

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

going in

[jason_skeesick]:

and every year like we're struggling to be on the top half of the league o not contenders but not even the top half of the league meanwhile green

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

wow

[jason_skeesick]:

bay or the steelers or the patriots every single year you know they get some talent that just like we do and they trade for some folks just like we do and they've had the same coach for fifty years same two coaches for fifty years in steelerska they've had the same two quarterbacks for

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

he

[jason_skeesick]:

same one quarterback for twenty years right and they're contender every single year and i think a lot of times businesses think that if they can hire smart talent if they and get great management if they can you know buy technical play books from some online guru or whatever that somehow they're going

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

what

[jason_skeesick]:

to turn into champions what i do is i help them to understand

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i do

[jason_skeesick]:

it's the organization that wins super bowls year over year it's not the tactics

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

oh

[jason_skeesick]:

it's not the skill level of you can hire

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

level

[jason_skeesick]:

somebody who is great and if your organization stinks they're going to stink in two years you can hire you can the best

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

yeah

[jason_skeesick]:

place you can go out and pay a guru to teach you exactly the marketing player exactly the diet or exactly whatever and if you blow it and your organization and your your your your your structure is not up to snuff

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

yeah

[jason_skeesick]:

it's going

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i

[jason_skeesick]:

to go in the toilet anyway

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

go

[jason_skeesick]:

and so without those things

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

so

[jason_skeesick]:

that's

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

without

[jason_skeesick]:

the things that i want to make popular is the things that maybe haven't been sexy up until now but that definitely should be and that's what the best organizations are doing people work too hard for too little money

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

hard

[jason_skeesick]:

i think people

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

for

[jason_skeesick]:

be working a lot less and may be making a lot more just by really understanding why they're doing what they're doing and how to communicate that through their from top to to bottom

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

it's funny you mention he steals from my favorite football teams

[jason_skeesick]:

cool

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

and and i'm also a cardinal fan so i appreciate their organization how they like you said consistently tame and time and getting we even though sometimes the fans we want them to go and do the six the sexy shiny thing

[jason_skeesick]:

yeah

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

and they go now we're going to be discipline we have a plan we know how we're going to get where we're going we're going to stick to our organizer plan we're not going to give in to the pressure from the outside to build the whole thing up and start over

[jason_skeesick]:

yeah

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

again

[jason_skeesick]:

yeah it's hard i mean

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

yeah

[jason_skeesick]:

it's always hard to mean listen when

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

when

[jason_skeesick]:

it doesn't matter if you're an entrepreneur

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

it doesn't

[jason_skeesick]:

if

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

matter

[jason_skeesick]:

you're working at a job or if it's just your family when somebody comes in and says i want

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

so

[jason_skeesick]:

res

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

come

[jason_skeesick]:

tomorrow

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

and say i

[jason_skeesick]:

you have two choices you can tell them

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

so

[jason_skeesick]:

what they want to hear which is okay then we'll we'll go hire this new hot sales guy or we'll go buy this new program that's supposed to make all of our problems go away or go um you know hire a new manager whatever the different things you might do and you

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

every

[jason_skeesick]:

can apply this to your own life however you choose you can tell them the right answer which

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

you can

[jason_skeesick]:

is

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

tell

[jason_skeesick]:

i

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

em

[jason_skeesick]:

can't

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

right

[jason_skeesick]:

give you that answer tomorrow i can give you that answer it's going to take

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

that

[jason_skeesick]:

this long

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

a

[jason_skeesick]:

so off screen or

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

yeah

[jason_skeesick]:

you can either have you can either have good results that take some time or you can have good

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i

[jason_skeesick]:

results that

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

you

[jason_skeesick]:

go

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

have

[jason_skeesick]:

away very quickly tomorrow you know and i think at the end of the day those people that have been really successful

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

oh that

[jason_skeesick]:

when i talk to really successful people they think in terms of like five ten years when i talk to people like somebody will

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i

[jason_skeesick]:

ask me if you follow gary v p the kids asking this all the time how do i become how do i make a hundred million dollars really fast and go to the problem with what you're saying is the really fast

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

a

[jason_skeesick]:

you wan to make a hndrdmillion dollars a hundred ways

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

right

[jason_skeesick]:

to do it you wan to mkeahndredmillion dllars really fast that's well guess go buy lottery tickets

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

yes

[jason_skeesick]:

i don't know you know like that doesn't that's not how things work and so my mission is to try to help people to understand that and to do it in such a way where it's not as boring as i think it's been presented past

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

somebody i was talking and the srntrope one day say that overnight success is a pipe dream

[jason_skeesick]:

yeah yeah

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

that rarely happens like you said it's over the long hall it takes time it takes failure like you talk early in the podcast to get to that point of success he needs you be on the and fail for a while possibly before you fill it to the point where you actually see the fruits of your labor

[jason_skeesick]:

yeah i didn't get paid for my gym for

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i

[jason_skeesick]:

seven years i used all of the money i had a job

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

all

[jason_skeesick]:

so i used all of the money to put back into the community to put back into reinvestment i don't think i did it right but i understood it level i understood that i was investing in the future with my efforts and by the way i loved doing it people always say like do the thing you love and you'll never feel

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

we

[jason_skeesick]:

like you work i had to learn how to manage

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

i

[jason_skeesick]:

a team in this type of business these guys were working three hours a week i wasn't paying their bills i was they loved what we were doing they believed in the tribe they believed in helping others they believed in the nutrition and the fitness all

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

she

[jason_skeesick]:

of that stuff and so they came and i paid him

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

so

[jason_skeesick]:

two

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

they

[jason_skeesick]:

hundred

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

came

[jason_skeesick]:

three hundred dollars a month and they did it because they loved it and what that taught me was how

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

what

[jason_skeesick]:

to be an expert at managing a team who doesn't pay their rent because of you right and so it's like they have to

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

so

[jason_skeesick]:

want

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

it's

[jason_skeesick]:

to

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

like

[jason_skeesick]:

do it and so i learned all of these things about getting everybody together and understanding why we're all doing this you guys are the fuel for my rocket ship but i want to make sure that i'm the fuel for yours in return and i wanted to make sure that was true and i think we did a good job of that and i think i can help others to kind of understand how

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

so to give you opportunity to work in artrepeners and training find you connect with you where can i find you podcast where can you find your social media

[jason_skeesick]:

so my podcast is spear and clover my webs it's across all platforms as well as youtube my youtubecama spear and clover instagram facebook linked in twitter all of that spear end clover my personal ninstagram is my platform of choice and my personal instagram is jason ski sick no spaces that's jason s k e e s i c q and i'm down to talk to anybody i mean were you know i love having conversation with out if you feel like i can help you if you just have a question if there's somebody has been on my show you'd like to meet reach out to me i'd love to help you on ah and

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

yeah

[jason_skeesick]:

that's pretty much it

[keith_haney__the_man__the_myth__the_legend]:

well jason thanks so much this was a great conversation and bless of what you do and keep shooting for that drink it those big harodases goals and move up more atrepenes find their space and find their voice and and push on towards success

[jason_skeesick]:

thank you so much keith oh

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